Big News from Road & Mack

"For Sweden" (rallybeetle) 03/04/2020 at 14:34 • Filed to: Road & Mack, Road and Mack, Road and Travis, Road & travis, Road and track, Road & Track, R&T, Amperstand, Mack Hogan, Mack, Return Of The Mack

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GM will release m odels with 400 miles of range; a new Cadillac flagship sedan to save the badge , and an 800-volt Hummer.

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Thomas Donohue > For Sweden 03/04/2020 at 14:44

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Anxiously awaiting the 2022 Allante -EV!

3point8isgreat > For Sweden 03/04/2020 at 14:46

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“... w ill be joined by a Bolt EUV all-electric crossover in 2021"  

I thought the Bolt already was a crossover though? It’s between the CX-3 and CX-5 in height. It being as narrow as the CX-3, but shorter in length, just adds to the top heavy look that makes it look crossover-esque.

Or does crossover literally just mean they added some of that disgusting body cladding to the wheel arches?

gettingoldercarguy > For Sweden 03/04/2020 at 14:47

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Unable to take Tesla down through surrogates, the auto industry is going to have to compete.

For Sweden > 3point8isgreat 03/04/2020 at 14:48

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Or does crossover literally just mean they added some of that disgusting body cladding to the wheel arches?

oui

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > For Sweden 03/04/2020 at 14:52

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So what I’m seeing is we will see a CUV version of the Bolt next year... and a whole lot of ‘not much else’ until 2025.

I’m glad they’re using Cadillac to introduce high end/high performance BEVs.

In my view, instead of wasting money developing the CT6 as well as that Blackwing V8, Cadillac should have made a high performance BEV .

Better late than never I suppose.

For Sweden > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly 03/04/2020 at 14:53

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Just put the Blackwing in a C8 you cowards

CobraJoe > 3point8isgreat 03/04/2020 at 15:00

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Or does crossover literally just mean they added some of that disgusting body cladding to the wheel arches?

I know this is in jest, but I would absolutely love seeing a CUV sitting at exactly the same height as the “regular” car.  

gettingoldercarguy > For Sweden 03/04/2020 at 15:09

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Corporate egos won’t let that happen.

For Sweden > gettingoldercarguy 03/04/2020 at 15:11

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It’s the for the American government to take over GM again.

Ash78, voting early and often > CobraJoe 03/04/2020 at 15:20

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Infiniti QX30 and the Mercedes GLA, to start. Hyundai Kona, as well. Maybe even the newest Ford Escape. I’m sure there are some others...

They’re converging into proper hatchbacks.

Kia Niro is one of the more obvious ones:

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Thomas Donohue 03/04/2020 at 16:05

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Allant-E

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > For Sweden 03/04/2020 at 16:40

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If it's only confined to North America is it still huge? Seems to me it might just be of regional significance...

3point8isgreat > Ash78, voting early and often 03/04/2020 at 16:43

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The Konas and GLAs have definitely made me do double takes as I realized how short they actually are. It’s basically just the extra inch or two of ground clearance that differentiates them from a “regular” hatchback, and gives them a taller appearance.

I really remember sitting in my Magnum and seeing a GLA45, and noticing that I was practically dead even with it on height.  That was the moment when I decided to give up on classifying some cars.

For Sweden > SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media 03/04/2020 at 16:51

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A continent is pretty huge yes

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > For Sweden 03/04/2020 at 17:00

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And yet there are at least three other continents of similar or greater size where this huge new plan is largely irrelevant.

pip bip - choose Corrour > For Sweden 03/05/2020 at 04:44

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i hope GM goes bust!

Ash78, voting early and often > 3point8isgreat 03/05/2020 at 10:19

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Yep, I think we’re at the point now where the only difference between a hatch/wagon and a crossover is:

1. It must have at least 6" ground clearance AND

2. It must have AWD available

Without those two, it’s really gray area.

Speaking of the Magnum, when they canceled it I realized the revised unibody Durango really just took its place. It’s not the same, but close enough for most buyers -- RWD, V8, plenty of room for passengers.